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		By: Kristen Milstead		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristen Milstead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2018 13:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello, I hope you are well!  Thank you for your comments. I understand completely about taking a break from thinking about narc abuse. I did as well and my perspective on it has changed because I am at a different point in recovering from what happened, and I feel even more determined now to help other people get away from people like our ex-partners. I don&#039;t think of myself as a &quot;victim&quot; in the traditional definition of the word, and yet we were certainly victimized so it seems the appropriate word to use in a sentence sometimes, for lack of a better term.  Yet I love the term you used, &quot;person of value.&quot;  I may use that someday and will absolutely credit you. You bring up thinking that you looked unhinged.  It&#039;s horrible.  Such is the nature of narcissistic abuse, where they look normal because they have been unaffected emotionally and our lives have been torn apart in every way possible and we don&#039;t understand why or how, and as we struggle to even just get our minds back, we appear to have &quot;lost it.&quot; But you know that wasn&#039;t true, and your readers do as well.  Maybe all of that writing helped you sort out what happened and heal as quickly as you did. Your writing was always inspiriting to me.  I hope things are going better for you these days.  -Kristen]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I hope you are well!  Thank you for your comments. I understand completely about taking a break from thinking about narc abuse. I did as well and my perspective on it has changed because I am at a different point in recovering from what happened, and I feel even more determined now to help other people get away from people like our ex-partners. I don&#8217;t think of myself as a &#8220;victim&#8221; in the traditional definition of the word, and yet we were certainly victimized so it seems the appropriate word to use in a sentence sometimes, for lack of a better term.  Yet I love the term you used, &#8220;person of value.&#8221;  I may use that someday and will absolutely credit you. You bring up thinking that you looked unhinged.  It&#8217;s horrible.  Such is the nature of narcissistic abuse, where they look normal because they have been unaffected emotionally and our lives have been torn apart in every way possible and we don&#8217;t understand why or how, and as we struggle to even just get our minds back, we appear to have &#8220;lost it.&#8221; But you know that wasn&#8217;t true, and your readers do as well.  Maybe all of that writing helped you sort out what happened and heal as quickly as you did. Your writing was always inspiriting to me.  I hope things are going better for you these days.  -Kristen</p>
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		By: despair2deliverance		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2018 01:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very good article, Kristen. I found I had to take a considerable amount of time off from writing and even thinking about narc abuse so I could begin the healing process and return to a point where I feel I can trust my own judgment again. I know that may sound a bit extreme. That&#039;s because it is. Now I&#039;m ready to come back around and rethink narcissism with a refreshed perspective.

I think you&#039;ve hit on some great points here, particularly where you&#039;ve identified the urge to &quot;warn&quot; others about your discoveries. I think now I looked unhinged, and when I go back and read what I&#039;ve written, I can taste the layers of hurt, anger, and devastation. Building an understanding of what happened and what to look for in future partners is essential, but I&#039;ve also found that using a &quot;Pontius Pilate&quot; approach to the past is helpful. You&#039;re also right to point out that they&#039;re never really finished with you. In my case, I have gone black on her. I&#039;ve also replaced narc abuse &quot;victim&quot; with &quot;target of value,&quot; because that&#039;s really what we&#039;re talking about. A target presents some kind of value, and it&#039;s all about feeding their ego.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good article, Kristen. I found I had to take a considerable amount of time off from writing and even thinking about narc abuse so I could begin the healing process and return to a point where I feel I can trust my own judgment again. I know that may sound a bit extreme. That&#8217;s because it is. Now I&#8217;m ready to come back around and rethink narcissism with a refreshed perspective.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ve hit on some great points here, particularly where you&#8217;ve identified the urge to &#8220;warn&#8221; others about your discoveries. I think now I looked unhinged, and when I go back and read what I&#8217;ve written, I can taste the layers of hurt, anger, and devastation. Building an understanding of what happened and what to look for in future partners is essential, but I&#8217;ve also found that using a &#8220;Pontius Pilate&#8221; approach to the past is helpful. You&#8217;re also right to point out that they&#8217;re never really finished with you. In my case, I have gone black on her. I&#8217;ve also replaced narc abuse &#8220;victim&#8221; with &#8220;target of value,&#8221; because that&#8217;s really what we&#8217;re talking about. A target presents some kind of value, and it&#8217;s all about feeding their ego.</p>
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		By: Lisa		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2018 06:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I always feel guilty labeling my partner as being narcissistic let alone anything else.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always feel guilty labeling my partner as being narcissistic let alone anything else.</p>
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		By: Kathleen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kathleen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2018 05:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ This is really excellent! It’s something I’ve tried to explain or have noodled over and you’ve explained it very well! Keep spreading tthe news!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> This is really excellent! It’s something I’ve tried to explain or have noodled over and you’ve explained it very well! Keep spreading tthe news!</p>
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		By: Lindsay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lindsay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2018 16:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article! Thank you so much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article! Thank you so much.</p>
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		By: Kris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2018 16:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Kristen,

Thank you for this!

I think this is an excellent post and very appropriate for me at the moment. Labels were an immense help for me in framing my experience.I am in therapy as part of my recovery and I was reluctant to mention these labels to my therapist as regards my abuser. Even though I had spent a little over three months in constant research and speaking to other survivors, I felt that my self-diagnosing my abuser would be deflected by a therapist.

Lucky for me, I found a very good one who listened to everything I had to say. He concurs with me that what I went through was textbook narcissistic abuse. I was also lucky that he praised my research as being pro-active and a great sign of somebody who wanted to get better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kristen,</p>
<p>Thank you for this!</p>
<p>I think this is an excellent post and very appropriate for me at the moment. Labels were an immense help for me in framing my experience.I am in therapy as part of my recovery and I was reluctant to mention these labels to my therapist as regards my abuser. Even though I had spent a little over three months in constant research and speaking to other survivors, I felt that my self-diagnosing my abuser would be deflected by a therapist.</p>
<p>Lucky for me, I found a very good one who listened to everything I had to say. He concurs with me that what I went through was textbook narcissistic abuse. I was also lucky that he praised my research as being pro-active and a great sign of somebody who wanted to get better.</p>
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