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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Amen sister and brother I get the pain you feel, but she is right and you need to hear that we’re all in this together. I went to a group for recovery from adultery. It was all women but not closed to men. They asked us to tell our stories in 3 minutes in order to get it all out on the table and somehow start to heal. Well 40 years of abuse and 20 years of betrayal with two women I knew very well who he brought into my world and the lives of our children cannot be summed up in 3 minutes. So I took 20 minutes to tell mine after paring it down from an hour of just the highlights. At the end of my story the leader (who as it turns out I discovered was the female narcissist in her own story and was feeding her narcissistic behavior by “leading” all of us through betrayal recovery -and I use the term leading loosely) sat there dumb struck for a moment. She had been summarizing every story with all the fake compassion she could muster. But mine was so horrible and convoluted she wasn’t able to work her charms. The rest of the room was stunned and even though suffering themselves I could tell they were heartbroken for me.&lt;br /&gt;
My sister and my MIL are both pathologically narcissistic and the two women who targeted my husband (he had narcissistic behaviors but is not pathological), me and our kids for 20 and 7 years were sociopathic and psychopathic respectively. Let me tell you recovery from a female narcissist has been harder than I could imagine bc they do not back up they do not give in no matter how hard you try to reach them.&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen sister and brother I get the pain you feel, but she is right and you need to hear that we’re all in this together. I went to a group for recovery from adultery. It was all women but not closed to men. They asked us to tell our stories in 3 minutes in order to get it all out on the table and somehow start to heal. Well 40 years of abuse and 20 years of betrayal with two women I knew very well who he brought into my world and the lives of our children cannot be summed up in 3 minutes. So I took 20 minutes to tell mine after paring it down from an hour of just the highlights. At the end of my story the leader (who as it turns out I discovered was the female narcissist in her own story and was feeding her narcissistic behavior by “leading” all of us through betrayal recovery -and I use the term leading loosely) sat there dumb struck for a moment. She had been summarizing every story with all the fake compassion she could muster. But mine was so horrible and convoluted she wasn’t able to work her charms. The rest of the room was stunned and even though suffering themselves I could tell they were heartbroken for me.<br />
My sister and my MIL are both pathologically narcissistic and the two women who targeted my husband (he had narcissistic behaviors but is not pathological), me and our kids for 20 and 7 years were sociopathic and psychopathic respectively. Let me tell you recovery from a female narcissist has been harder than I could imagine bc they do not back up they do not give in no matter how hard you try to reach them.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2019 20:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://fairytaleshadows.com/why-relationships-with-narcissists-are-fraudulent/comment-page-1/#comment-14938&quot;&gt;G S&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi G: I&#039;m sorry to hear about what you&#039;ve been through. I don&#039;t think anyone believes they&#039;re always men. If you had read far enough, you would have read that I was telling my own story, so of course it was &quot;about a guy.&quot; I fail to understand how anyone&#039;s story about someone&#039;s experiences with a narcissistic partner causes another person who has been in a relationship with a narcissist to feel offended rather than to identify with the survivor--who cares what gender they are?  And, yes, Rob&#039;s story was extremely convoluted--that is the point.  I believe that, as survivors, we are all in this together and that rather than argue with each other over pronouns, we should support each other and focus on the real issue at hand. I encourage you to start a blog and tell your story if you feel that not enough stories are about female narcissists. Thank you for leaving a comment. I wish you peace in your healing journey.  -Kristen]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://fairytaleshadows.com/why-relationships-with-narcissists-are-fraudulent/comment-page-1/#comment-14938">G S</a>.</p>
<p>Hi G: I&#8217;m sorry to hear about what you&#8217;ve been through. I don&#8217;t think anyone believes they&#8217;re always men. If you had read far enough, you would have read that I was telling my own story, so of course it was &#8220;about a guy.&#8221; I fail to understand how anyone&#8217;s story about someone&#8217;s experiences with a narcissistic partner causes another person who has been in a relationship with a narcissist to feel offended rather than to identify with the survivor&#8211;who cares what gender they are?  And, yes, Rob&#8217;s story was extremely convoluted&#8211;that is the point.  I believe that, as survivors, we are all in this together and that rather than argue with each other over pronouns, we should support each other and focus on the real issue at hand. I encourage you to start a blog and tell your story if you feel that not enough stories are about female narcissists. Thank you for leaving a comment. I wish you peace in your healing journey.  -Kristen</p>
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		By: G S		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2019 19:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You lost me in the covoluted &quot;Rob&quot; story.
And I knew when I clicked on the article it would be a guy.  All these articles are always about guys.  However, just as many of these narcissists are women, in every single way.  Women who live off of men, burn out one, then con another.  They lie, they hide, they have private friends, addictions, but they fake along the relationship for the money, which they spend, borrow, and burn, and never pay back.  They never keep their word, they never keep their promises.   Yes women.  I&#039;m frankly sick of the idea that these are always men.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You lost me in the covoluted &#8220;Rob&#8221; story.<br />
And I knew when I clicked on the article it would be a guy.  All these articles are always about guys.  However, just as many of these narcissists are women, in every single way.  Women who live off of men, burn out one, then con another.  They lie, they hide, they have private friends, addictions, but they fake along the relationship for the money, which they spend, borrow, and burn, and never pay back.  They never keep their word, they never keep their promises.   Yes women.  I&#8217;m frankly sick of the idea that these are always men.</p>
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