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		By: Caroline		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caroline]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://fairytaleshadows.com/why-is-it-so-hard-to-get-over-a-narcissist/comment-page-1/#comment-6555&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

I’m so glad you took the time to write your experience down. Mine is almost exactly the same and I haven’t seen such a similar experience.

From blocking the phone for two weeks, then unblocking him so he wouldn’t show up at my door. EXACTLY THE SAME!

Outside of the well-known abuse you wrote about e.g. gaslighting, you made another point that has me stuck with his energy some six months later… the sex! The admiration, the adoring me, desiring me, the amazing physical connection. But, like you, I was a plaything, an object.

The only thing that is keeping me really away is that I found out he raped a woman while we were together. I found this out a month or so after I broke it off for the millionth time. He had raped me many times and showed up in my bedroom etc but there’s that self-doubt of ‘did that happen’ they have so well engrained in us.

Even though he committed such a heinous crime I still sexually yearn for him but also want to punch him in the face… even at the same time. Which is absolutely crazy… yet that’s what they do, they bring out the worst in us.

I find it hard to release his grasp (energy) from my life. I’ve never had this with an ex. Usually once it’s over I never look back. I wish I could just shake this off.

I also have fears over my ‘picker’ I’ve recently found out my mum is a narc with BPD so trauma bonds and being treated like shit WAS an acceptable behaviour for me.

I’ve done a lot of work on myself… but will be completely free once his energy is no longer in my sphere.

Anyway some five years after you’ve written your comment, a woman in the world (me) is grateful to have found it.

I hope you have experienced some healthy love/ sex in this time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://fairytaleshadows.com/why-is-it-so-hard-to-get-over-a-narcissist/comment-page-1/#comment-6555">Cindy</a>.</p>
<p>I’m so glad you took the time to write your experience down. Mine is almost exactly the same and I haven’t seen such a similar experience.</p>
<p>From blocking the phone for two weeks, then unblocking him so he wouldn’t show up at my door. EXACTLY THE SAME!</p>
<p>Outside of the well-known abuse you wrote about e.g. gaslighting, you made another point that has me stuck with his energy some six months later… the sex! The admiration, the adoring me, desiring me, the amazing physical connection. But, like you, I was a plaything, an object.</p>
<p>The only thing that is keeping me really away is that I found out he raped a woman while we were together. I found this out a month or so after I broke it off for the millionth time. He had raped me many times and showed up in my bedroom etc but there’s that self-doubt of ‘did that happen’ they have so well engrained in us.</p>
<p>Even though he committed such a heinous crime I still sexually yearn for him but also want to punch him in the face… even at the same time. Which is absolutely crazy… yet that’s what they do, they bring out the worst in us.</p>
<p>I find it hard to release his grasp (energy) from my life. I’ve never had this with an ex. Usually once it’s over I never look back. I wish I could just shake this off.</p>
<p>I also have fears over my ‘picker’ I’ve recently found out my mum is a narc with BPD so trauma bonds and being treated like shit WAS an acceptable behaviour for me.</p>
<p>I’ve done a lot of work on myself… but will be completely free once his energy is no longer in my sphere.</p>
<p>Anyway some five years after you’ve written your comment, a woman in the world (me) is grateful to have found it.</p>
<p>I hope you have experienced some healthy love/ sex in this time.</p>
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		By: Ashley J Burton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ashley J Burton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2019 23:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://fairytaleshadows.com/why-is-it-so-hard-to-get-over-a-narcissist/comment-page-1/#comment-6555&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;p&gt;I want to know how you are doing now. I feel like you feel or felt. I hope you have found peace. It&#8217;s all im striving for.&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://fairytaleshadows.com/why-is-it-so-hard-to-get-over-a-narcissist/comment-page-1/#comment-6555">Cindy</a>.</p>
<p>I want to know how you are doing now. I feel like you feel or felt. I hope you have found peace. It&#8217;s all im striving for.</p>
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		By: Lynda		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2019 18:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://fairytaleshadows.com/why-is-it-so-hard-to-get-over-a-narcissist/comment-page-1/#comment-6601&quot;&gt;M&lt;/a&gt;.

I understand honestly, I&#039;m the same 2 years just about holding it together, I&#039;m no contact , but took me a long time to do that, I would just keep going back occasionally to him to get some weird relief from it all the pain would disappear but the next morning I couldn&#039;t wait to be away from him , the messages I got kept me trapped, but the gaslighting was the worse feeling ever, no closure , just found it myself n stayed away, it&#039;s the only way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://fairytaleshadows.com/why-is-it-so-hard-to-get-over-a-narcissist/comment-page-1/#comment-6601">M</a>.</p>
<p>I understand honestly, I&#8217;m the same 2 years just about holding it together, I&#8217;m no contact , but took me a long time to do that, I would just keep going back occasionally to him to get some weird relief from it all the pain would disappear but the next morning I couldn&#8217;t wait to be away from him , the messages I got kept me trapped, but the gaslighting was the worse feeling ever, no closure , just found it myself n stayed away, it&#8217;s the only way.</p>
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		By: M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2019 18:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is so right on.  My relationship was only 2 years   If that’s what you call it.  It was fast and furious.   On top of I suffered a nervous break down.   How could I fall into this?   Why?    Will I have ever recover ?   No one but no one understands me!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so right on.  My relationship was only 2 years   If that’s what you call it.  It was fast and furious.   On top of I suffered a nervous break down.   How could I fall into this?   Why?    Will I have ever recover ?   No one but no one understands me!!!!</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2019 12:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is hard to get over   a narcissistic abuser for all of the reasons listed in the article.  I agree that the legal definition of abuse including narcissistic abuse  would benefit and protect partners and children of narcissists. Each time I left my narcissistic partner I encountered so much stalking. I would block calls, texts, social media and emails and then found that would increase the driving around my house, parking at the end of the street, going into my house when I’m not home to try to find something to substantiate the delusions of someone else in my life on the computer.  Then I just unblock the phone because I’d rather be bombarded with texts and calls then have him stalking me physically. Friends think blocking the phone is the best idea but they don’t realize I need to choose the lesser of the two evils.  Him showing up is more difficult for me and makes me more likely to cave with hoovering as you called it in your definitions.  What confuses me is when I miss him, certain things. One addition to the list under intensity of the relationship is sexual intensity. More so than any healthy relationship which is another reason it was hard to stay away even though the rest of us was so unhealthy. Also the bombardment of intensely romantic and poetic compliments, mostly related to attractiveness, yet not being valued as a person.  Why do we miss the person who has harmed us, exploited us, controlled us and made us walk on eggshells with unpredictable tirades?  I love his family and miss his kids and grandkids, miss sleeping beside him, I’m always told he’s suffering without me and it’s all in my control to being us back together. He has no ability to stop the abuse. 2 therapists confirmed that he can’t change at all at his age. I can now tell he truly has a lack of mental capacity to reason or be logical when I discuss the abuse. He denies it and then there’s no framework to problem solve. I won’t date anyone else, my “picker” is broken and I don’t trust my judgement. I live in a very limited area to meet people. So it’s easy to miss companionship and narcissist when there’s no one to share life with. My children and friends are wonderful and I don’t want another smothering/neglectful roller coaster. I find no adult companionship causes me to miss him.  I wish he was 100% unhealthy and abusive then I wouldn’t miss anything]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is hard to get over   a narcissistic abuser for all of the reasons listed in the article.  I agree that the legal definition of abuse including narcissistic abuse  would benefit and protect partners and children of narcissists. Each time I left my narcissistic partner I encountered so much stalking. I would block calls, texts, social media and emails and then found that would increase the driving around my house, parking at the end of the street, going into my house when I’m not home to try to find something to substantiate the delusions of someone else in my life on the computer.  Then I just unblock the phone because I’d rather be bombarded with texts and calls then have him stalking me physically. Friends think blocking the phone is the best idea but they don’t realize I need to choose the lesser of the two evils.  Him showing up is more difficult for me and makes me more likely to cave with hoovering as you called it in your definitions.  What confuses me is when I miss him, certain things. One addition to the list under intensity of the relationship is sexual intensity. More so than any healthy relationship which is another reason it was hard to stay away even though the rest of us was so unhealthy. Also the bombardment of intensely romantic and poetic compliments, mostly related to attractiveness, yet not being valued as a person.  Why do we miss the person who has harmed us, exploited us, controlled us and made us walk on eggshells with unpredictable tirades?  I love his family and miss his kids and grandkids, miss sleeping beside him, I’m always told he’s suffering without me and it’s all in my control to being us back together. He has no ability to stop the abuse. 2 therapists confirmed that he can’t change at all at his age. I can now tell he truly has a lack of mental capacity to reason or be logical when I discuss the abuse. He denies it and then there’s no framework to problem solve. I won’t date anyone else, my “picker” is broken and I don’t trust my judgement. I live in a very limited area to meet people. So it’s easy to miss companionship and narcissist when there’s no one to share life with. My children and friends are wonderful and I don’t want another smothering/neglectful roller coaster. I find no adult companionship causes me to miss him.  I wish he was 100% unhealthy and abusive then I wouldn’t miss anything</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2019 05:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Once again, extremely thorough and accurate list. Loss financially is devastating for me. Currently Separated fir 3 months. Divorce papers were signed 2 days ago. He offered to take them. . Now he texts  he can’t  drop them off at courthouse because he can’t “commit love suicide” and loves me so much he feels seasick.  Sometimes I miss him which is insane! Oh and after he denied 11 years was based on sex (only moves together during short 6 month marriage) the last thing he said when he left with divorce papers, he  held me tightly and said “the sex was the best ever, unvelievable.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, extremely thorough and accurate list. Loss financially is devastating for me. Currently Separated fir 3 months. Divorce papers were signed 2 days ago. He offered to take them. . Now he texts  he can’t  drop them off at courthouse because he can’t “commit love suicide” and loves me so much he feels seasick.  Sometimes I miss him which is insane! Oh and after he denied 11 years was based on sex (only moves together during short 6 month marriage) the last thing he said when he left with divorce papers, he  held me tightly and said “the sex was the best ever, unvelievable.”</p>
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		By: Kristen Milstead		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristen Milstead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2019 01:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://fairytaleshadows.com/why-is-it-so-hard-to-get-over-a-narcissist/comment-page-1/#comment-6435&quot;&gt;Katie&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re welcome, Katie. There are already some really strong organizations and people working to group people together to make coercive control a recognized and illegal form of abuse within the United States, as it is in France, UK and other European countries. I&#039;d like to have narcissistic abuse acknowledged as well (as would others). There are elements of it that overlap with coercive control, but are distinctive from it. We as survivors are at the threshold of recognition. See the website mission for more of how I hope to work with others to accomplish this over time. It&#039;s a long process. Thank you for leaving a comment. -Kristen]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://fairytaleshadows.com/why-is-it-so-hard-to-get-over-a-narcissist/comment-page-1/#comment-6435">Katie</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome, Katie. There are already some really strong organizations and people working to group people together to make coercive control a recognized and illegal form of abuse within the United States, as it is in France, UK and other European countries. I&#8217;d like to have narcissistic abuse acknowledged as well (as would others). There are elements of it that overlap with coercive control, but are distinctive from it. We as survivors are at the threshold of recognition. See the website mission for more of how I hope to work with others to accomplish this over time. It&#8217;s a long process. Thank you for leaving a comment. -Kristen</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2019 22:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When are you going to help us group together and begin the process of having narcissistic abuse legally recognized AS ABUSE so that we can get protection during and after the relationship?  Please.... 
it is legally recognized in UK now and is having a big impact on those suffering through this horrendously invisible abuse. 
Thank you for all work - it’s reassuring to know I’m not alone, not imagining things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When are you going to help us group together and begin the process of having narcissistic abuse legally recognized AS ABUSE so that we can get protection during and after the relationship?  Please&#8230;.<br />
it is legally recognized in UK now and is having a big impact on those suffering through this horrendously invisible abuse.<br />
Thank you for all work &#8211; it’s reassuring to know I’m not alone, not imagining things.</p>
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