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		By: Lizette Ord		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2019 16:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Kristen me again, I forgot to add that his reasons for no longer loving me was that I didn’t trust him, I was clingy, I was on anti depressants, I didn’t appreciate all he did for me. After the divorce I again ended up in a clinic. I am being treated for PTSD. And I’m sure I’ll remember more soon. He also treats me like a total stranger, a work colleuge.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kristen me again, I forgot to add that his reasons for no longer loving me was that I didn’t trust him, I was clingy, I was on anti depressants, I didn’t appreciate all he did for me. After the divorce I again ended up in a clinic. I am being treated for PTSD. And I’m sure I’ll remember more soon. He also treats me like a total stranger, a work colleuge.</p>
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		By: Lizette Ord		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2019 15:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Hi Kristen I was with my ex for 14yrs, 9 of which we were married. In the first 5 yrs he had a cyber affair with an ex girlfriend in another province. He then promised it would never happen and and begged me to marry him. 4_5 yrs down the line he had an affair with my assistant, he swore he never slept with her but not before telling everyone I was mad, including the marriage coyncellor who believed him. It took a year to get the whole story out of him and only because I kept finding out new things. I then had a breakdown and ended up in clinic for 2 weeks. Again lots of promises, he even had a new very expensive wedding ring made for me.&lt;br /&gt;
He did a lot around the house and always spoilt me. He never used me for money. Then we joined a gym and every time I arrived he was always talking and laughing with the women. Because of the affair I took him on about this, but from then on things just got worse until he left on the 4th March this year, he came home told me he didn&#8217;t love me anymore and that he was leaving, which he did. He divorced me on the 20th March and moved in with a woman the beginning of April. He swore blind that he had never lied to me so ce his affair with my assistant. What I have since found out is that he was talking to numerous other woman about our problems, lied about his girlfriend when my granddaughter saw her name on his phone, he called a 9yr old a liar. We were also vegans and very involved in animal rescue, we adopted 5 huskies and 3 cats together. When he left, he is no longer a vegan, doesn&#8217;t ever ask how the dogs are. And cut my whole family off, including his 9yr old step granddaughter. I have asked him why but he just says he needed a break. I unfortunately work with him. He and the girlfriend are now engaged. But he told our boss that they had broken up.&lt;br /&gt;
Is this narcisstic behaviour&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kristen I was with my ex for 14yrs, 9 of which we were married. In the first 5 yrs he had a cyber affair with an ex girlfriend in another province. He then promised it would never happen and and begged me to marry him. 4_5 yrs down the line he had an affair with my assistant, he swore he never slept with her but not before telling everyone I was mad, including the marriage coyncellor who believed him. It took a year to get the whole story out of him and only because I kept finding out new things. I then had a breakdown and ended up in clinic for 2 weeks. Again lots of promises, he even had a new very expensive wedding ring made for me.<br />
He did a lot around the house and always spoilt me. He never used me for money. Then we joined a gym and every time I arrived he was always talking and laughing with the women. Because of the affair I took him on about this, but from then on things just got worse until he left on the 4th March this year, he came home told me he didn&#8217;t love me anymore and that he was leaving, which he did. He divorced me on the 20th March and moved in with a woman the beginning of April. He swore blind that he had never lied to me so ce his affair with my assistant. What I have since found out is that he was talking to numerous other woman about our problems, lied about his girlfriend when my granddaughter saw her name on his phone, he called a 9yr old a liar. We were also vegans and very involved in animal rescue, we adopted 5 huskies and 3 cats together. When he left, he is no longer a vegan, doesn&#8217;t ever ask how the dogs are. And cut my whole family off, including his 9yr old step granddaughter. I have asked him why but he just says he needed a break. I unfortunately work with him. He and the girlfriend are now engaged. But he told our boss that they had broken up.<br />
Is this narcisstic behaviour</p>
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		By: Emma		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2019 11:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is excellent. Those last six points are exactly it. I had a narcissistic therapist. It resulted in my divorce after a long and happy enough marriage. I was love bombed and then made utterly crazy by her tactics.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is excellent. Those last six points are exactly it. I had a narcissistic therapist. It resulted in my divorce after a long and happy enough marriage. I was love bombed and then made utterly crazy by her tactics.</p>
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		By: Kristen Milstead		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristen Milstead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2019 22:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://fairytaleshadows.com/defining-narcissistic-abuse-pt-1-the-universe-of-false-selves-and-the-construction-of-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-1583&quot;&gt;Victim&lt;/a&gt;.

Exactly! I could empathize with that story, and I’m so sorry for what you’ve been through. That exact moment when something happens and whatever it is, you know it’s absolutely not normal and it’s beyond your comprehension. But you’re in such shock and you have no frame for understanding it. So when they come back, the only way you have of understanding it is to put it behind you, take on the responsibility so it will “go away,” and decide it was a one-off. After that, you’re right, they have you, and as the abuse continues, you start to lose yourself and your ability to even think coherently anymore and they have the control, yet they are able to make it appear as if they are victims. It’s so twisted. Thank you for sharing your story. I hope you are out now and on your way to recovering from the relationship. -Kristen]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://fairytaleshadows.com/defining-narcissistic-abuse-pt-1-the-universe-of-false-selves-and-the-construction-of-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-1583">Victim</a>.</p>
<p>Exactly! I could empathize with that story, and I’m so sorry for what you’ve been through. That exact moment when something happens and whatever it is, you know it’s absolutely not normal and it’s beyond your comprehension. But you’re in such shock and you have no frame for understanding it. So when they come back, the only way you have of understanding it is to put it behind you, take on the responsibility so it will “go away,” and decide it was a one-off. After that, you’re right, they have you, and as the abuse continues, you start to lose yourself and your ability to even think coherently anymore and they have the control, yet they are able to make it appear as if they are victims. It’s so twisted. Thank you for sharing your story. I hope you are out now and on your way to recovering from the relationship. -Kristen</p>
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		By: Victim		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2019 08:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ What people fail to understand is the level of commitment narcissists will undergo in order to construct their &quot;false self&quot;.  I was in a relationship with this man for 6 full months before I saw the first sign of who he really was.  Up to that point he had been unfailingly charming, attentive, sensitive and loving.  He had utterly convinced me he was the dream partner I had been seeking all my life.  And I had fallen head over heels in love with him in a way I never had before with any man, including my husband of 14 years and father of my 3 children.  I was blissfully happy with him beyond anything I could have ever imagined possible.  And then one evening he was driving us to a local restaurant to have dinner and I said, &quot;My friend Shannon called me earlier and said she wanted to go out tonight but she had been drinking and didn&#039;t want to drive so she asked me if I would come and pick her up later and drop her off at the bar.  So I may need to leave for about 15 mins after dinner to go and get her.&quot;  It seemed like such a reasonable request that it never even occurred to me that anyone would take issue.  But he lost his shit!  He turned to me with pure rage and hatred in his eyes and said, &quot;We made plans to spend time with each other this evening and now you&#039;re going to take off and pick up your drunk friend in the middle of our date?!  Fuck you, this is MY time and if you don&#039;t respect me enough to make me a priority then go do what you need to do without me!&quot;  Then he did a squealing U-turn in the middle of the highway and goes right back to his place.  I was totally shocked by his reaction and based on how reasonable and perfect he had been up until now I thought I must have unknowingly committed some terrible crime in order for him to behave this way.  I immediately began falling all over myself apologizing.  &quot;I&#039;m so sorry!  I&#039;ll call her right now and tell her I&#039;m not coming.&quot;  All the while crying my eyes out and begging him not to be upset with me.  I should have saved my breath because it had ZERO effect.  He pulled up in front of his apartment, reached over me to open the passenger side door, and said, &quot;Get the fuck out!!&quot;  I pleaded with him to calm down and let&#039;s talk about it but he was having none of it.  He said either I got out on my own or he would drag me out.  I finally stepped out of the vehicle and the moment my feet hit the curb he hit the gas and sped off.  I tried to call and text him over and over with no reply.  I was an emotional wreck!  He went 2 full days without acknowledging I existed while I laid in my bed and cried my eyes out.  When he finally did contact me he offered no excuse or apology.  His whole attitude screamed, &quot;You&#039;re damn lucky I&#039;m even talking to you after the shit you pulled&quot;. I was so grateful to have a second chance I welcomed him with open arms and never even brought up his appalling and disrespectful behavior.  From that moment on he had me.  This man had proven himself for 6 months to be a decent, kind, and reasonable human being so obviously I had done something terrible to bring out this monster, even if I couldn&#039;t figure out what it was.
That&#039;s narcissistic abuse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> What people fail to understand is the level of commitment narcissists will undergo in order to construct their &#8220;false self&#8221;.  I was in a relationship with this man for 6 full months before I saw the first sign of who he really was.  Up to that point he had been unfailingly charming, attentive, sensitive and loving.  He had utterly convinced me he was the dream partner I had been seeking all my life.  And I had fallen head over heels in love with him in a way I never had before with any man, including my husband of 14 years and father of my 3 children.  I was blissfully happy with him beyond anything I could have ever imagined possible.  And then one evening he was driving us to a local restaurant to have dinner and I said, &#8220;My friend Shannon called me earlier and said she wanted to go out tonight but she had been drinking and didn&#8217;t want to drive so she asked me if I would come and pick her up later and drop her off at the bar.  So I may need to leave for about 15 mins after dinner to go and get her.&#8221;  It seemed like such a reasonable request that it never even occurred to me that anyone would take issue.  But he lost his shit!  He turned to me with pure rage and hatred in his eyes and said, &#8220;We made plans to spend time with each other this evening and now you&#8217;re going to take off and pick up your drunk friend in the middle of our date?!  Fuck you, this is MY time and if you don&#8217;t respect me enough to make me a priority then go do what you need to do without me!&#8221;  Then he did a squealing U-turn in the middle of the highway and goes right back to his place.  I was totally shocked by his reaction and based on how reasonable and perfect he had been up until now I thought I must have unknowingly committed some terrible crime in order for him to behave this way.  I immediately began falling all over myself apologizing.  &#8220;I&#8217;m so sorry!  I&#8217;ll call her right now and tell her I&#8217;m not coming.&#8221;  All the while crying my eyes out and begging him not to be upset with me.  I should have saved my breath because it had ZERO effect.  He pulled up in front of his apartment, reached over me to open the passenger side door, and said, &#8220;Get the fuck out!!&#8221;  I pleaded with him to calm down and let&#8217;s talk about it but he was having none of it.  He said either I got out on my own or he would drag me out.  I finally stepped out of the vehicle and the moment my feet hit the curb he hit the gas and sped off.  I tried to call and text him over and over with no reply.  I was an emotional wreck!  He went 2 full days without acknowledging I existed while I laid in my bed and cried my eyes out.  When he finally did contact me he offered no excuse or apology.  His whole attitude screamed, &#8220;You&#8217;re damn lucky I&#8217;m even talking to you after the shit you pulled&#8221;. I was so grateful to have a second chance I welcomed him with open arms and never even brought up his appalling and disrespectful behavior.  From that moment on he had me.  This man had proven himself for 6 months to be a decent, kind, and reasonable human being so obviously I had done something terrible to bring out this monster, even if I couldn&#8217;t figure out what it was.<br />
That&#8217;s narcissistic abuse.</p>
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		By: Kristen Milstead		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristen Milstead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2018 16:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://fairytaleshadows.com/defining-narcissistic-abuse-pt-1-the-universe-of-false-selves-and-the-construction-of-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-188&quot;&gt;Jacky&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Jacky:  I just sent you an E-mail in response to your message.  Maybe others can offer some advice and insight as well.  Try to have a good day today and take care of yourself.  You don&#039;t deserve this and it is not your fault.

Take care,
Kristen]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://fairytaleshadows.com/defining-narcissistic-abuse-pt-1-the-universe-of-false-selves-and-the-construction-of-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-188">Jacky</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Jacky:  I just sent you an E-mail in response to your message.  Maybe others can offer some advice and insight as well.  Try to have a good day today and take care of yourself.  You don&#8217;t deserve this and it is not your fault.</p>
<p>Take care,<br />
Kristen</p>
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		By: Jacky		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2018 07:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi,

After his hoover i went back for the ... time and tried the relationship again. Yesterday he ended it again. The first weeks of the relationship it felt good. He didnt put pressure on me and was understanding and nice. Then he slowly started to pull me into his life again. Started complaining again about all of his troubles, wanted me to help with this and that and  i started to feel the pressure again. Because i&#039;m becoming more aware of whats happening i tried to keep my boundries but he got mad about that and wasnt so understanding anymore. He blames me for everything and i feel guilty. He puts me down and belittles me. In a way its very clear to me but i still feel guilty and insecure. What could i have done different and is he wright about me...All those questions go through my mind and i&#039;m tired of fighting and feeling so bad about myself. It keeps me in a state that doesnt help me to get over this.
I hope there are readers who have suggestions or regonize what i&#039;m going through because wright now i feel alone and blaming myself.

Thanks!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>After his hoover i went back for the &#8230; time and tried the relationship again. Yesterday he ended it again. The first weeks of the relationship it felt good. He didnt put pressure on me and was understanding and nice. Then he slowly started to pull me into his life again. Started complaining again about all of his troubles, wanted me to help with this and that and  i started to feel the pressure again. Because i&#8217;m becoming more aware of whats happening i tried to keep my boundries but he got mad about that and wasnt so understanding anymore. He blames me for everything and i feel guilty. He puts me down and belittles me. In a way its very clear to me but i still feel guilty and insecure. What could i have done different and is he wright about me&#8230;All those questions go through my mind and i&#8217;m tired of fighting and feeling so bad about myself. It keeps me in a state that doesnt help me to get over this.<br />
I hope there are readers who have suggestions or regonize what i&#8217;m going through because wright now i feel alone and blaming myself.</p>
<p>Thanks!!!</p>
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