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		By: lifeatablur		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you so much for sharing,  I have been out and separated for over 3 years now, ,my dilemma is this,  Although my son  does not have to go see his father because he was old enough to stand up and speak for himself..  My daughter does have to,  which breaks my heart for her to have deal with,  however the court system said he had never abused her therefore he has right to see her.  they did have him go through counseling but if you know a narcissist you know he slid right through,  knew all the right things to say.  I am looking for resources or books, something to help my daughter has she has to endure this time in her life.  All I can find is after the child is grown.  I don’t want her to have to wait and suffer like that.  Where I live mental abuse is not considered to be serious and not much I can do but help her get through.  I have to be very cautious of what I tell her because he picks her to see if I haven’t talked down about him to her.    Feeling helpless!  I managed to get free but I feel more tangled because of my children.  I do Not regret leaving at all I just wish I knew a way to help her in this tough situation]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for sharing,  I have been out and separated for over 3 years now, ,my dilemma is this,  Although my son  does not have to go see his father because he was old enough to stand up and speak for himself..  My daughter does have to,  which breaks my heart for her to have deal with,  however the court system said he had never abused her therefore he has right to see her.  they did have him go through counseling but if you know a narcissist you know he slid right through,  knew all the right things to say.  I am looking for resources or books, something to help my daughter has she has to endure this time in her life.  All I can find is after the child is grown.  I don’t want her to have to wait and suffer like that.  Where I live mental abuse is not considered to be serious and not much I can do but help her get through.  I have to be very cautious of what I tell her because he picks her to see if I haven’t talked down about him to her.    Feeling helpless!  I managed to get free but I feel more tangled because of my children.  I do Not regret leaving at all I just wish I knew a way to help her in this tough situation</p>
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		By: Kristen Milstead		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2018 18:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://fairytaleshadows.com/beating-the-narcissist-releasing-the-grip-after-a-breakup/comment-page-1/#comment-736&quot;&gt;tracy&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Tracy:  Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment. I am humbled and honored by your kind words and that you decided to do so. I&#039;m so glad you chose to say something because perhaps it helps you feel less alone (you definitely are not) and maybe it helps others to feel less alone as well. I am so sorry for what you have been through. You are definitely not alone!  Please stay strong and keep fighting. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> -Kristen ]]></description>
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<p>Hi Tracy:  Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment. I am humbled and honored by your kind words and that you decided to do so. I&#8217;m so glad you chose to say something because perhaps it helps you feel less alone (you definitely are not) and maybe it helps others to feel less alone as well. I am so sorry for what you have been through. You are definitely not alone!  Please stay strong and keep fighting. ❤ -Kristen </p>
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		By: Kristen Milstead		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2018 00:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://fairytaleshadows.com/beating-the-narcissist-releasing-the-grip-after-a-breakup/comment-page-1/#comment-735&quot;&gt;Survivor of a Narcissist&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Debi:  Thank you so much for your kind words of encouragement.  -Kristen]]></description>
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<p>Hi Debi:  Thank you so much for your kind words of encouragement.  -Kristen</p>
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		By: tracy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2018 03:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;This is my first time ever commenting on a blog. I just want to start off by saying Kristen I cannot tell you enough after finding you recently how much help you&#8217;ve been!! I have wanted to tell &#038; comment so many times, but like someone else here said&#8230;.they strip you of all the energy &#038; sometimes even the will to live that you&#8217;ve got&#8230;.especially when you have to work together everyday!!!!! I bought the book on Kindle you recommended &#8230;&#8221;Becoming the Narcissist&#8217;s Nightmare&#8221;. Haven&#8217;t read much (can&#8217;t do much of anything) but what a great book so far. The Author Shahida Arabi is well educated and very intelligent &#038; insightful.&lt;br /&gt;
    I feel the same way you do&#8230;an overwhelming desire to become part of a group like yours &#038; read everything I can on subject. I can say as well&#8230;.I Never Knew These Creatures Existed!!!&lt;br /&gt;
    I just wanted to share a little tonight &#038; hopefully make it a regular thing cuz that&#8217;s what I Need to get through this. I&#8217;ve been in the relationship with the Narc for 3 yrs. I also have C-PTSD. I had an entire childhood of just about every abuse. So know you know what I&#8217;m dealing with. Finding qualified, caring therapist are hard. I&#8217;ve been going to therapists since 3rd grade so i should know.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tracy&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my first time ever commenting on a blog. I just want to start off by saying Kristen I cannot tell you enough after finding you recently how much help you&#8217;ve been!! I have wanted to tell &amp; comment so many times, but like someone else here said&#8230;.they strip you of all the energy &amp; sometimes even the will to live that you&#8217;ve got&#8230;.especially when you have to work together everyday!!!!! I bought the book on Kindle you recommended &#8230;&#8221;Becoming the Narcissist&#8217;s Nightmare&#8221;. Haven&#8217;t read much (can&#8217;t do much of anything) but what a great book so far. The Author Shahida Arabi is well educated and very intelligent &amp; insightful.<br />
    I feel the same way you do&#8230;an overwhelming desire to become part of a group like yours &amp; read everything I can on subject. I can say as well&#8230;.I Never Knew These Creatures Existed!!!<br />
    I just wanted to share a little tonight &amp; hopefully make it a regular thing cuz that&#8217;s what I Need to get through this. I&#8217;ve been in the relationship with the Narc for 3 yrs. I also have C-PTSD. I had an entire childhood of just about every abuse. So know you know what I&#8217;m dealing with. Finding qualified, caring therapist are hard. I&#8217;ve been going to therapists since 3rd grade so i should know.</p>
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		By: Survivor of a Narcissist		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2018 16:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://fairytaleshadows.com/beating-the-narcissist-releasing-the-grip-after-a-breakup/comment-page-1/#comment-734&quot;&gt;Kristen Milstead&lt;/a&gt;.

Kristen,
I’m so sad to read what you have been through, but so happy to read that you are on a path to recovery. Jeff is pushing a quicky marriage to a freshly divorced woman. This poor victim is a sexual abuse survivor, recovering addict, and has multiple psychological issues- bi-polar, depression, PTSD, etc. She is being love bombed and gushing about “never been  loved like this, never been so complete, so happy”.  She is wearing an engagement ring that was not bought with money he earned.  I feel sooooo bad for her because I know what’s she in for and she has already been through so much. He’s always gone for successful, educated, strong, happy women. This is a big departure for him. He gets disgusted easily. He told me he once lost interest in a long term woman because her gray hairs were showing.
The years I spent trying to understand what was going on. I was so clueless to the world of narcissism.
He’s not physically violent, I mean I’ve never seen him be physically violent. He is the cruelest, most heartless person I’ve ever known. His Mom is his enabler, she supports him no matter what he does and financially, I have seen her give him tens if thousands of dollars and she is retired and of very limited means. I’ve seen Jeff screaming the f word at her and I’ve seen him be unimaginably cruel to her.
He has a special needs son and Jeff has repeatedly abandoned him, pursuing women. For years and months at a time. ????
I’ve witnessed degrading, profanity laced language directed at his son and watched him keep going even after his son was defeated and devastated.
All those episodes cemented my understanding that no matter how sincere or loving Jeff seemed, I could never expect anything better than what he had previously unleashed on me and what I witnessed him do to his Mother and son, repeatedly.
Yes, the only person you can save is yourself. May God give you strength and help you continue on a path of joy.
Debi]]></description>
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<p>Kristen,<br />
I’m so sad to read what you have been through, but so happy to read that you are on a path to recovery. Jeff is pushing a quicky marriage to a freshly divorced woman. This poor victim is a sexual abuse survivor, recovering addict, and has multiple psychological issues- bi-polar, depression, PTSD, etc. She is being love bombed and gushing about “never been  loved like this, never been so complete, so happy”.  She is wearing an engagement ring that was not bought with money he earned.  I feel sooooo bad for her because I know what’s she in for and she has already been through so much. He’s always gone for successful, educated, strong, happy women. This is a big departure for him. He gets disgusted easily. He told me he once lost interest in a long term woman because her gray hairs were showing.<br />
The years I spent trying to understand what was going on. I was so clueless to the world of narcissism.<br />
He’s not physically violent, I mean I’ve never seen him be physically violent. He is the cruelest, most heartless person I’ve ever known. His Mom is his enabler, she supports him no matter what he does and financially, I have seen her give him tens if thousands of dollars and she is retired and of very limited means. I’ve seen Jeff screaming the f word at her and I’ve seen him be unimaginably cruel to her.<br />
He has a special needs son and Jeff has repeatedly abandoned him, pursuing women. For years and months at a time. ????<br />
I’ve witnessed degrading, profanity laced language directed at his son and watched him keep going even after his son was defeated and devastated.<br />
All those episodes cemented my understanding that no matter how sincere or loving Jeff seemed, I could never expect anything better than what he had previously unleashed on me and what I witnessed him do to his Mother and son, repeatedly.<br />
Yes, the only person you can save is yourself. May God give you strength and help you continue on a path of joy.<br />
Debi</p>
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		By: Kristen Milstead		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2018 15:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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Hello and thank you for sharing your story... I&#039;m sorry to hear about what you are going through.  It&#039;s so shocking yet sad how similar many of our stories are. I can relate to many of the things you are going through-- &quot;say the word and my bags are pack,&quot; and being with someone else at the same time or within days or hours. Marrying people they barely know who don&#039;t know who they really are. Constant lying.  Bait and switch.  Yes, I wanted to save him at times... this this is only something I am coming now to recognize, and I will be able to speak more on it another time, but now I realize he was only reflecting back to me what I wanted to hear.  Despite the absolutely appalling behavior he subjected me and multiple other women to across three continents-- for starters, he put his now wife in the hospital, apparently, (showed no empathy when talking about it) and I ended up very sick and my hair fell out (it&#039;s now growing back), using as an excuse that he himself had been so horribly treated in the past that he could not trust others and that he was being forced into other relationships he did not want, he said to me literally at a different time, &quot;there&#039;s nothing wrong with me.&quot;  I am able to think now about the contradiction.  &quot;I&#039;ve been devastatingly hurt in the past and therefore I inflict horrifying pain on others&quot; which implies a need to forgive and to save and not abandon on the part of others and  &quot;There&#039;s nothing wrong with me.&quot;   I realize now this shows a very sinister desire to manipulate to serve his own ends, excuse his own behavior, and shows a lack of true insight. He has no remorse for what he has done.  There is no saving him.  And besides... no one can save another person.  I know this now.  I choose to save myself.  :)  I wish you well on your journey to recovery and I hope that you will choose yourself!  Please stay to keep up the conversation and thank you for taking the time to leave a comment.  -Kristen  ]]></description>
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<p>Hello and thank you for sharing your story&#8230; I&#8217;m sorry to hear about what you are going through.  It&#8217;s so shocking yet sad how similar many of our stories are. I can relate to many of the things you are going through&#8211; &#8220;say the word and my bags are pack,&#8221; and being with someone else at the same time or within days or hours. Marrying people they barely know who don&#8217;t know who they really are. Constant lying.  Bait and switch.  Yes, I wanted to save him at times&#8230; this this is only something I am coming now to recognize, and I will be able to speak more on it another time, but now I realize he was only reflecting back to me what I wanted to hear.  Despite the absolutely appalling behavior he subjected me and multiple other women to across three continents&#8211; for starters, he put his now wife in the hospital, apparently, (showed no empathy when talking about it) and I ended up very sick and my hair fell out (it&#8217;s now growing back), using as an excuse that he himself had been so horribly treated in the past that he could not trust others and that he was being forced into other relationships he did not want, he said to me literally at a different time, &#8220;there&#8217;s nothing wrong with me.&#8221;  I am able to think now about the contradiction.  &#8220;I&#8217;ve been devastatingly hurt in the past and therefore I inflict horrifying pain on others&#8221; which implies a need to forgive and to save and not abandon on the part of others and  &#8220;There&#8217;s nothing wrong with me.&#8221;   I realize now this shows a very sinister desire to manipulate to serve his own ends, excuse his own behavior, and shows a lack of true insight. He has no remorse for what he has done.  There is no saving him.  And besides&#8230; no one can save another person.  I know this now.  I choose to save myself.  🙂  I wish you well on your journey to recovery and I hope that you will choose yourself!  Please stay to keep up the conversation and thank you for taking the time to leave a comment.  -Kristen  </p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2018 21:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://fairytaleshadows.com/beating-the-narcissist-releasing-the-grip-after-a-breakup/comment-page-1/#comment-732&quot;&gt;4everperfectly1mperfect&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes we are!  :)  ]]></description>
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<p>Yes we are!  🙂  </p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2018 10:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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 Right back at you Kristine! You’ve been instrumental to my being able to verbalize the chaos that twirls around in my head.  You don’t know this but I forward the posts that resonate to my psychologist to better explain what I’m feeling.  

I
We are in this together! ]]></description>
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<p> Right back at you Kristine! You’ve been instrumental to my being able to verbalize the chaos that twirls around in my head.  You don’t know this but I forward the posts that resonate to my psychologist to better explain what I’m feeling.  </p>
<p>I<br />
We are in this together! </p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2018 10:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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Right back at you Kristine! You’ve been instrumental to my being able to verbalize the chaos that twirls around in my head.  You don’t know this but I forward the posts that resonate to my psychologist to better explain what I’m feeling.  

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We are in this together! ]]></description>
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<p>Right back at you Kristine! You’ve been instrumental to my being able to verbalize the chaos that twirls around in my head.  You don’t know this but I forward the posts that resonate to my psychologist to better explain what I’m feeling.  </p>
<p>I<br />
We are in this together! </p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristen Milstead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2018 01:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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Hi  V:  Yes, definitely.  We need to do our inner work as part of healing.  Now that I have answered most of my questions about the relationship itself, I can tell that is where I am going to be headed next in my own healing process.  As always, thank you for your insights.  -Kristen]]></description>
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<p>Hi  V:  Yes, definitely.  We need to do our inner work as part of healing.  Now that I have answered most of my questions about the relationship itself, I can tell that is where I am going to be headed next in my own healing process.  As always, thank you for your insights.  -Kristen</p>
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